Zoom has the CW...

[Gaetano Capuano]

I have had the G7, and the B2. The G7 I believe is the same tones, and the b2 is the same lay out. Decent effects in my experience. Like you said the Fender and Vox cleans are very usable. Check out the DZ drive, that is a very sweet high gain amp model, if the 2 has it. The only thing that is tough on the 2 is you can only switch patches, no single effects on and off. I used the G7 just for effects, I did comp>3 staged od's>G7 delays and modulations etc(manual mode)> front of tube amp Classic 30 and Valve Junior stack. I had great results with both set ups. The G7 was transparent enough for me like that. It did suck terribly at straight to PA, my fav, because the speaker sims are not good.

Check out the DZ drive.

[ewardvanhalen]

i had a g9 and the old gfx1 they are ok and no cw.the pv vypyrs are the way to go.i am very happy with it.300$

[Doode]

Check out the DZ drive, that is a very sweet high gain amp model, if the 2 has it.
Check out the DZ drive.

There is no DZ on the G2. Anyway, I use it purely for effects in the loop now. To my ears, the Vox, Fender and sometimes the Peavey sound sweet, and the Marshall crunch (JCM800) is VERY cool. The rest sound shitty to me. Also you lose a lot of volume with some of them (like the Boogie Mark whatever, which sounds ok for lead at high volumes).

i had a g9 and the old gfx1 they are ok and no cw.the pv vypyrs are the way to go.i am very happy with it.300$

One thing about the Vypers is good: the modelling is analog so it never sounds fake - which doesn't mean it never sounds bad. But seriously, to me it feels like a toy and the effects don't sound good. I still have that f*cking heavy Peavey Transfex 212s Pro in a dark corner in the basement. It 'models' tube sound. No specific clone. So the thought was "let's make it sound good" instead of "let's make it sound like this very famous amp". Four channels and a REAL (back in the day) high-end MFX built in: like with the GT, you can have your effects where you want them. It can produce good sound. More modern than vintage, though. Anyway, the point is: it has two fine 12" speakers, solid hardware and housing and cost me a little fortune ten years ago.

And there's the Vypyr. Ok, ten years have passed. But look at it: the knobs are on the verge of falling off right when you take it out of the box. There's a lot of plastic going on, the speaker cab is probably made of reinforced cardboard and the speaker itself might carry a nice name (does it at all?) but probably comes from a box labelled "scrap" (and don't get me started on the manual). But most importantly: it doesn't sound good to me. Slightly better than a low-end Spider, but that's it.

Look at the Bandit. Widely known as a good (solid state) amp. How come it can do way "less" than the vypyr 75 but still costs the same or even more?

I'm not the one to say cheap can't be good (I got a G2, right?), but in the case of the vypyr, it isn't. To me at least.

[lp_bruce]

I still have that f*cking heavy Peavey Transfex 212s Pro in a dark corner in the basement. It 'models' tube sound. No specific clone. So the thought was "let's make it sound good" instead of "let's make it sound like this very famous amp". Four channels and a REAL (back in the day) high-end MFX built in: like with the GT, you can have your effects where you want them. It can produce good sound. More modern than vintage, though. Anyway, the point is: it has two fine 12" speakers, solid hardware and housing and cost me a little fortune ten years ago.

I layed through the Transfex series a bit a while back, and I had the same general impression. I like that they were just chasing a "tube-like" tone rather than specific amps, which is really all I'm normally after. I thought the a decent effort and was capable of some good sounds.

Regarding the Vyper, we are in complete agreement. I understand it might work for some, but it feels like a toy to me and I wouldn't trust it for gigging (my only real need) because it's just not sturdy enough.

Peace,

[ewardvanhalen]

doode, we agree on most things and you are right it is made cheap. but its easy to carry and the pedal is made of metal. amp in one hand guitar in other
and its loud and its got real amp tone. im happy!

the pedal, amp and a 5 year warranty 300$ not bad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phAXLFyLAwo

[Doode]

but its easy to carry

That's why I tried it out. Transtube is a fine thing: if my Transfex didn't weigh half a ton I wouldn't constantly look for something else.

[porcytree]

i had a g9 and the old gfx1 they are ok and no cw.the pv vypyrs are the way to go.i am very happy with it.300$

hey there EVH - glad you're enjoying your Vyper.I under stand from the various forums that they are pretty good for the High Gain stuff ......how are they at fender,vox or marshall type tones (cleans & crunches)

[Doode]

Gee, just discovered another downside of the G2. It is very strictly designed to be used in front of the amp, but as I don't like the modelling so much but really dig the FX, I have it in the loop anyway. Now the problem is that my amp's preamp has a relatively high output. Result: the G2 doesn't clip but limits the input (I wonder how this is done). So this means I have to turn down the pre-amp's level which is fine for the drive channel that has seperate gain / volume, but for the clean (only volume) this means I can't get into the slight breakup area. And of course I lose overall volume, which I don't have plenty of. Hmmmmmmm.....

@porcy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQWtgn45cfM - if the sucker sounded the way you would ASSUME by watching / listening to this, I would've bought one. The problem is, it sounds exactly like this in person, i.e. exactly like your PC desktop speakers.

[frenchfries]

Gee, just discovered another downside of the G2. It is very strictly designed to be used in front of the amp, but as I don't like the modelling so much but really dig the FX, I have it in the loop anyway. Now the problem is that my amp's preamp has a relatively high output. Result: the G2 doesn't clip but limits the input (I wonder how this is done). So this means I have to turn down the pre-amp's level which is fine for the drive channel that has seperate gain / volume, but for the clean (only volume) this means I can't get into the slight breakup area. And of course I lose overall volume, which I don't have plenty of. Hmmmmmmm.....

If ever it can help you: I use an EbTech Line Level Shifter to overcome this issue, with the Zoom as well as with the GT10. Furthermore, the Zoom can spit a fierce +5db level, if my memory serves me.

[Doode]

Does this level shifter need a power adapter? I don't want to clutter up things. Yeah, the Zoom might spit that much but not swallow .

But to be fair, I really think it's the amps fault. It's got all its volume from the preamp. I once routed the Transfex's preamp into the H&K (that's the amp i'm talking about) to see what the Transfex would sound like with a closed 1x12... and I was shocked how quiet it was. The Transfex's poweramp must be a mean machine, because this sucker IS loud.

Edit: just saw the shifter at thomann.de : Hmmm... might exactly do the trick and has 2 channels, so the signal would be decreased to go into the G2 and then increased again to go back to the power-amp. Cool stuff, and passive, no power adapter needed. BUTTTTT: 89 Euros.... hmmmmmm.... might get it anyway. But how can it turn -11db into +4db without power??