View Full Version : Need suggestions! Smart midi people in here plz!
03-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Hey everyone hows it going. I finally have the funds to start a rack and include the gt-pro, but heres my deal.
I just want to use the gt for cleans and leads because I have a triple rectifier that sounds wonderful for palm muting.
I was looking at the Voodoo labs GcX audio switcher and ground control. Would this be able to A/B switch as well as change patches on the gt? From what i've read you'd plug your guitar into the first guitar in. Then both outputs from there into the inputs of the rectifier and gt-pro. Then I would use my external channel switching on my amp and send each channel to a different loop (then obviously i press the switch for that loop and my channels change). But I still don't understand how it would be able to A/B while changing patches on the gt? Would the midi connection work for that?
Anyone have other suggestions as to what I need.... I just thought that might be able to eliminate the need for an A/B box to avoid more button tapping?
03-06-2006, 05:33 AM
Just connect your controller to the switcher's midi in and the midi out from the switcher to the midi in from the Pro. Or connect your controller to the Pro's midi- and connect the the Pro's midi-thru to the midi-in of the switcher. That way messages send by your groundcontrol will reach both. Beware though, that the switcher feeds phantom power to the midicable. The Pro may not like that...
03-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Why dont you just use the 4CM with the amp and you dont have to buy the expensive switcher,isnt that a possible solution ?.
03-06-2006, 08:48 PM
I don't really like Mesa's fx loop... everything i've put through it always gives a slight phasing sound and I don't know why.
Anyone here use the Gt-pro this way through a triple rectifier's loop? How does it switch channels and change patches at the same time through that connection?
03-06-2006, 10:05 PM
I have an F-100 head and have bad results with the effects loop on it. I've heard Mesa's FX Loops aren't the best for MFX...
03-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Just what I thought.... thats why I wanted something that could A/B between the mesa and Gt-Pro and switch patches at the same time... is that like not possible or something?
03-07-2006, 03:11 AM
Depends. Anything is possible, just depends on how much you are willing to spend.Would you be getting another power amp for the Pro or do you want to use the Rectifier's power amp?
03-07-2006, 04:34 AM
I'd be getting another poweramp and maybe a sonic maximizer cause I hear those things do wonders....not even really sure what it does lol... but i'm willing to get it if its that good.
All that plus a power condition will be about 6 rack spaces but I wanna get a ten space and leave some room open for maybe some wireless units.... thats another thing I dont really understand is how to use multiple wireless units and see the same signal?
But yea I'd get another power amp.. one of Voodoo Lab's guitar techs will hopefully be emailing me back about whether not their GCX can do what I'm looking for
another option could be this midi board instead of the GCX , but it´s expensive , i have one myself
just copy and paste...
03-07-2006, 10:53 AM
="lankie_25"]I don't really like Mesa's fx loop... everything i've put through it always gives a slight phasing sound and I don't know why.
I think the reason is that it has a parallell effect loop,parallell loops dont work well together with digital mfx due to the latency the mfx adds,the result is a slight delay in between the direct signal and the signal going through the mfx processor and it makes it sound bad.
You may be able to use it as a serial loop if you set the fx mix control to 100% "wet" some amps work that way at least.
03-07-2006, 11:42 AM
You could get an Axess Electronics Head Switcher (HS2). (www.axess-electronics.com) to switch between the Pro and the Rectifier. Then you could control the HS2 with the GT-Pro's Amp Control jacks. That might be a solution
03-07-2006, 12:58 PM
hmmm would this work?
Lets say with the GCX I have all the mesa channels dedicated to a certain loop. So like loop 1-3 would all be assigned to the dedicated channels on the Mesa.
So I plug my guitar into the guitar in.... and instead of using both outputs I'd just use the main one to go to the input of the Mesa.
THEEEENNNN I'd take a cable from the other output and instead of going straight to the input of the GT-PRO, I would put it in the input of loop #4....then out of #4's output into the GT-PRO's input. Would it work that way...if so it would already be dedicated to a loop so maybe I could just keep assigning different patches all going through loop 4 and my A/B problems and patch changing problems would be solved!
But I'm probably wrong on everything I just said haha...
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