GT Pro vs GT-8 and its $500 diff!

[lucho06]

Ok this is mi first posting ever so lest see how it works out!
Mi friend has the GT-8 and I love it, recently I saw the GTPro and downloaded both manuals for comparison, so far the only diff I have found are the usb port and 3 fx loops instead of 1 on the 8, now for us minimun wage slaves those extra $500 plus a $200 MIDI foot controler can represent and extra 3+ months of savings and waiting, so I'm goona need something really convincing to go pro instead of 8.
Rock ON

[ASHJN]

I own the Pro. Unless you have a big rack set up, get the 8. I am scaling down, and if I could do it again I would get the 8 and save the $

[lucho06]

Ok so what you are saying is that going pro is a waste of money? I have also read in other forums that the sound of the pro is no better, and in some cases worst, that tho sound of the GT8, is that true? Because I have tried the GT8 throu my friend's little practice amp and it sounds awsome I can't wait to put it throu my half stack, I guess 8 is the way to go then.

[ASHJN]

In theory, they should sound the same

[Evilution]

Yeah the GT8 is probably better value ,but the pro is a fantastic unit also,and the additional features like the editor works great and i use it alot.

Personally i went with the pro since i was planning on getting more of a rack setup,but now my setup is just the pro in the rack and my amp head and cab so im not sure that im going to get more rack units ,i do have the VF-1 half rack unit though.

The other thing was that i was planning on using a midipedal since i dont want to have my main "soundmodule" on the floor where it could get soaked in beer at a club gig or something ,but i guess you could use the 8 with a midipedal also.

I got a good price on it also,i think its actually good value since it probably is the most advanced serial produced guitar preamp out there today and you can get it to sound great.

[glennfin]

It's a $400 difference... not $500 (I'm ordering my GT-pro next week.)

I plan on using a triaxis in the pre-loop so I have both GT-pro digital modeling and awesome Mesa tube tone!

I will also be using an Eventide Eclipse in the other loop. Should be a great combination... Control with a Behringer FCB1010

[ASHJN]

Your sound is gonna be damn good but have fun programming all that stuff. I don't even have enough time to fully program the Pro by itself. I couldn't imagine what it would take to get it working with a Triaxis and Eclipse too. But it sure will sound good

[glennfin]

The Triaxis is extremely easy to program. I've been spending many hours reading the GT-pro manual I downloaded off the Boss website, it doesn't look that complicated, just a lot of choices! MANY choices! I like the flexibility of the GT-pro :lol: I should be up to speed when it arrives.
I really hope they improved the amp simulations from the GT-6. I wasn't happy with the pre-amp distortions and amps in the GT-6.

The Eclipse is another story... the most incredible rack effects processor in the world (my opinion) but a real bear to program. Fortunately the factory presets are amazing and it's pretty easy to tweek them and save them as a user preset... but creating presets from scratch can be stressful!... I wish somebody had a software editor for the darn thing!
but it is truly amazing :!:




Your sound is gonna be damn good but have fun programming all that stuff. I don't even have enough time to fully program the Pro by itself. I couldn't imagine what it would take to get it working with a Triaxis and Eclipse too. But it sure will sound good

[Evilution]

I plan on using a triaxis in the pre-loop so I have both GT-pro digital modeling and awesome Mesa tube tone!

I will also be using an Eventide Eclipse in the other loop. Should be a great combination... Control with a Behringer FCB1010

I actually bought a used Marshall JMP-1 even before i got the GT-pro ,i didnt think the Pro would sound good enough as a preamp,i was only planning on using the pro as a effect unit.

But when i got the Pro i realised that it can do what the JMP-1 can and more and also with less noise,so i havent really used the JMP since i bought it .

The pro really has got better dynamics than the preamp in my marshall head ,and you can get that cruching modern metal crunch as well as excellent fender twin clean.

I am currently still using my marshall head as a power amp going in from the Pro to the effect return,i am seriously considering going full range with a smaller setup,its a pain to lug the 4x12 and head into the small clubs sometimes located in the basement down windling and small staircases.

[glennfin]

No offense to the JMP-1 but it really isn't in the same league as the triaxis. I owned a JMP-1 at one time... it claims to be a tube preamp but the distortion circuit is back to back diodes across an op-amp. I'm not surprised the GT-pro sounds better than the JMP-1.

I spent a lot of time and money over the past couple of years comparing the distortion of all the digital modeling processors (all the POD's, V-amp, GT-6, GNX-4, etc ,etc) to real tube distortion units like the Triaxis and Recto-recording preamp... So far nothing has come close to these two units (own them both, sold all the other junk).... we'll see what happens two weeks from now when my GT-PRO arrives...Maybe I'll be suprised!... My plan is to use both the Triaxis and the Recto in the "PRE-LOOP" section of the GT-PRO, that way I can use either the modeling or the tube stuff (or both!).... We'll see what happens.

Is that you playing the Dean?.. Nice axe!! :wink:




I actually bought a used Marshall JMP-1 even before i got the GT-pro ,i didnt think the Pro would sound good enough as a preamp,i was only planning on using the pro as a effect unit.

But when i got the Pro i realised that it can do what the JMP-1 can and more and also with less noise,so i havent really used the JMP since i bought it .

The pro really has got better dynamics than the preamp in my marshall head ,and you can get that cruching modern metal crunch as well as excellent fender twin clean.

I am currently still using my marshall head as a power amp going in from the Pro to the effect return,i am seriously considering going full range with a smaller setup,its a pain to lug the 4x12 and head into the small clubs sometimes located in the basement down windling and small staircases.

[TripMasterB]

so I'm goona need something really convincing to go pro instead of 8.

I first tried out the GT-8 and went with the Pro. I really wanted to move over to a rack setup all along, just to simplify and shorten my setup and tear down time. I also incorperate a VG-88 in my sound. Yes the guts are for the most part the same between the Pro and 8, but the Pro is such a great unit. With the extra outs and software that comes with the Pro, it's hard to go wrong.



I've been spending many hours reading the GT-pro manual I downloaded off the Boss website, it doesn't look that complicated

I did the same thing, and after a few months, it's really becoming quite easy to dial in sounds. Like any tool, it just takes time to learn it. It helped having the VG-88 as well since the programming is simular to the Pro. I'm also able to use the VG-88 as a controller for the Pro. I made sure to contact Boss beforehand to make sure this was possible. The only thing I added was a Roland EV-5 pedal because I like using the Roland expression pedal on the VG-88 as a dedicated master volume control.


just a lot of choices! MANY choices! I like the flexibility of the GT-pro

No doubt. I don't think I'll ever fully tap into the posibbilites with the VG-88 and it will probably be the same for the Pro. You use what fits your style, but it's great to be flexible and have many sonic options.

[rcknrllmn]

Ok this is mi first posting ever so lest see how it works out!
Mi friend has the GT-8 and I love it, recently I saw the GTPro and downloaded both manuals for comparison, so far the only diff I have found are the usb port and 3 fx loops instead of 1 on the 8, now for us minimun wage slaves those extra $500 plus a $200 MIDI foot controler can represent and extra 3+ months of savings and waiting, so I'm goona need something really convincing to go pro instead of 8.
Rock ON

Why wait? I'd go for the GT-8, instead of waiting another 3 months. You are getting the same thing sound wise, unless you really need the other extras the PRO has.

Learn to use the 8, keep it in good shape & if you decide you really need the PRO sell or trade the 8 later for the PRO.

You are still getting the great FX in both for the value of your hard earned money.

[Tyaetsch]

Hello,

i bought a GT-Pro last weekend, and i love it.

I got a small quickstart-sheet in german, which tells something about the difference between GT-Pro an GT-8. I can read there, that the GT-Pro has better A/D-converters and better componentes for the input and output amps => better ('fetter') sound.

Greetings,

Tyaetsch

[Evilution]

No offense to the JMP-1 but it really isn't in the same league as the triaxis. I owned a JMP-1 at one time... it claims to be a tube preamp but the distortion circuit is back to back diodes across an op-amp. I'm not surprised the GT-pro sounds better than the JMP-1.

I spent a lot of time and money over the past couple of years comparing the distortion of all the digital modeling processors (all the POD's, V-amp, GT-6, GNX-4, etc ,etc) to real tube distortion units like the Triaxis and Recto-recording preamp... So far nothing has come close to these two units (own them both, sold all the other junk).... we'll see what happens two weeks from now when my GT-PRO arrives...Maybe I'll be suprised!... My plan is to use both the Triaxis and the Recto in the "PRE-LOOP" section of the GT-PRO, that way I can use either the modeling or the tube stuff (or both!).... We'll see what happens.

Is that you playing the Dean?.. Nice axe!! :wink:


I know the JMP-1 isnt all tube ,i am a service engineer and i do have the schematics for it,i must say it really doesnt matter if its all tube or solidstate or whatever to me as long as it sounds good,thats really the only reason to buy an amp.My JCM 800 also has the diode bridge and it sounds great.


Yeah its me in my avatar with my Black Dean 79 series V playing an outdoor gig last summer (2005),its a great axe,ive got a new Dean V incoming any day now its from the black gold series :D .

[Evilution]

Hello,

i bought a GT-Pro last weekend, and i love it.

I got a small quickstart-sheet in german, which tells something about the difference between GT-Pro an GT-8. I can read there, that the GT-Pro has better A/D-converters and better componentes for the input and output amps => better ('fetter') sound.

Greetings,

Tyaetsch

Ive also heard someone mention that the components where of better grade in the Pro.

[Kingkong]

HI glennfin! Nice axe, (lespaul custom player here) :)

Anyway. I have rather similar setup. I run egnater m4 preamp trough GT-pro loop1. That way I can have some effects before preamp and some after. I can bybass the loop and use also GT-pro amps if I feel like it.

I have dreamed about eclipse for a couple of months now. Can it do some really out of space dreamy stuff like atmospheric pads etc.?

I have programmed my gt-pro to do some very cool synth / atmosphere like stuff.

Yes some GT-pro amps are rather good, some ain't. It lacks that tube dynamics and response, but the sound is good. If you remember to tweak your sound by yourself, the factory amp settings sucks. Back off gain and start clean, no fx. set everything to 12 and start working from there. Great tones.
Anyway I'm using 98% of my time playing egnater preamp and using only full range amp for playing acoustic / synth stuff to P.A.

But gt-pro is really cool. It controls everything and you can program it really fast, especially by USB via editor. Cool stuff.

Now if only this eclipse GAS would go away..

[piing]

Now if only this eclipse GAS would go away..

That's not easy....
http://www.lohengrinaudio.com/GTPro/rack.JPG
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[Evilution]

Yes some GT-pro amps are rather good, some ain't. It lacks that tube dynamics and response, but the sound is good. If you remember to tweak your sound by yourself, the factory amp settings sucks. Back off gain and start clean, no fx. set everything to 12 and start working from there. Great tones.
Anyway I'm using 98% of my time playing egnater preamp and using only full range amp for playing acoustic / synth stuff to P.A.


I agree with much of this,especially with the back off gain part,many of the patches have to much gain even for metal,you loose the definition and it sounds bad, i do however definately not agree that its lacking dynamics and response,this thing truly can kick you in the balls if you can tweak it right,i am currently using it through the powerstage of my JCM800 and with a 4x12 cab though.

BTW i also do own a Gibson les paul custom ,its a black very worn ´73 ,i dont use it much nowdays,i prefer my Dean ,its much lighter and more resonant (strings thru) with the same playability and a sound that is at least as good,and i really love V´s :D .

[Kingkong]

Pingfloid: Damn that picture! Now back to collecting money...

Evilution: Maybe jcm800 improves dynamics when used with GT-pro?
Can you say it's more dynamic than playing through your headphones? I believe it is so.

Yes gt-pro will sound very good if you can tweak it.

Hey pingfloid / others: Make my eclipse GAS worse and post some soundclips of it! Particularly spacy / atmospheric stuff and large reverbs...

[strat714]

Pingfloid!?!?! Is that an Eventide next to a Behringer?!?!?
That's like parking your Mazerati next to your VW Microbus!?!?!
Ha!

[piing]

Is that an Eventide next to a Behringer?!?!? That's like parking your Mazerati next to your VW Microbus!?!?!
Ha!

Wow! you've got a good sight 8O It's the Enhacer/Exciter EX3200, and you're right about it: it's like ading ketchup to a fine food in a french restaurant. :roll:


Damn that picture! Now back to collecting money...

Wait for a good deal on Ebay; now they are around 1.500 USD.
I sold a lot of stuff before I bought it, including the Charvel you can see at my avatar (now my cat is very sad because it was his favourite axe) :(

[Evilution]

Evilution: Maybe jcm800 improves dynamics when used with GT-pro?
Can you say it's more dynamic than playing through your headphones? I believe it is so.


Im not sure really ,dynamic is percieved i quite a different ways using headphones verses amp+speaker ,i also have closedback headphones with dual tranducers in each earcup (AKG K270 Studio) which really sounds powerful.

I have no problem with either really,we are actually planning och using our GT-Pro´s plugged directly into the mixingdesk next time we record,much of the reason for that is to get better definition.

[glennfin]

Hi King Kong;

The Eclipse excels at doing space stuff!!.. I use it to do some bizzare looping fx (repeater and echoplex digital pro plus) in some of my original music... couldn't live without it! :D Ya gotta get one man!! you won't be dissapointed!!! 8) especially if you have a stereo rig.

I see Pingfloyd is teasing you with that photo! :P ...

Nothing wrong with Behringer gear. I'm using the single rack space line mixer in my rig. A well designed mixer.



HI glennfin! Nice axe, (lespaul custom player here) :)
I have dreamed about eclipse for a couple of months now. Can it do some really out of space dreamy stuff like atmospheric pads etc.?

I have programmed my gt-pro to do some very cool synth / atmosphere like stuff.

Now if only this eclipse GAS would go away..