New Gt-Pro user

[cynegetic]

Hey all,
After not playing for many years I have been getitng back into it. in doing that I just HAD to get a new toy anf the GTpro just (of course) HAD to be it.

So, here I am with a lot of learning to do. With both the new toy and trying to get my fingers to move like the used to. Man, this thing is far more advanced than anything that I have used before. Do they offer degrees at the university for this thing?

Anyway, I have a few questions that I would hope some one might be able to answer.

First off is I seem to bet a lot of electric interference when using this thing. Not necesarrily from the gt itself but just when using it. I am shure that it comes from the guitar originally an it dissapears when I turn down the guitars volume, but I don't get this interference when using other equipment. Anyone know the cure? Or is this that buzz that I have read about on the forums. IF it is that I sure hope that they are working on a fix.

Second, I have a ev-5 pedel hooked up for use as wah. If I turn on any wah, play a single sustained note and slowly raise and lower the pedal, the wah sounds well... jumpy? It is not really smooth in the transition of 'wahness'. Like it sort of move es smooth and then quickly ups the 'wahness' then back to smooth etc. Not noticable when doing it quick. Is this just the way that the gt-pro does this? Hopefully it is just a bad pedal. BTW I did A/B the VO wah with my vox and man, it sure is damned close!

Lastly, for now anyway, it another kind of sound issue. Take a patch like the original 1-4 on the unit, turn off all rev, delay etc. Just the "Amp" and nr. Throw on some headphones and play a long sutaining note, maybe a harmonic or something. Now, does it sound to you like it is tracking or something? Like it is digitally trying to 'get' somewhere but it has nowhere to go? Mine does, is this normal? Is this what people refer to as the 'digitalness' of digital effects.

I do not have a really seasoned tone ear, as in I couldn't tell you if something was a true Marshall or not. Just if I like it or not. And so far I likey for the most part. It's just that when you upscope the bank on something that costs more than I have ever spent on a piece of equipment you want to be sure that it is operating properly.

Thanks for any help.

Jason

[aerial7]

Sorry, I can't help; it's often better to post questions like these in the 8 forum since the devices are so similar -- that way, you're reaching a larger audience.

[rcknrllmn]

Hello welcome,



First off is I seem to bet a lot of electric interference when using this thing. Not necesarrily from the gt itself but just when using it. I am shure that it comes from the guitar originally an it dissapears when I turn down the guitars volume, but I don't get this interference when using other equipment. Anyone know the cure? Or is this that buzz that I have read about on the forums. IF it is that I sure hope that they are working on a fix

My guess would be either a) a bad cord, b) improper or extreme setting somewhere, c) you are too close to a crt computer monitor, d) I have no idea.


Second, I have a ev-5 pedel hooked up for use as wah. If I turn on any wah, play a single sustained note and slowly raise and lower the pedal, the wah sounds well... jumpy? It is not really smooth in the transition of 'wahness'. Like it sort of move es smooth and then quickly ups the 'wahness' then back to smooth etc. Not noticable when doing it quick. Is this just the way that the gt-pro does this? Hopefully it is just a bad pedal. BTW I did A/B the VO wah with my vox and man, it sure is damned close!

Not sure on this one, did you try & mess with the control knob on the side of the EV-5? Maybe by reducing it's range it will help, I don't know.



Lastly, for now anyway, it another kind of sound issue. Take a patch like the original 1-4 on the unit, turn off all rev, delay etc. Just the "Amp" and nr. Throw on some headphones and play a long sutaining note, maybe a harmonic or something. Now, does it sound to you like it is tracking or something? Like it is digitally trying to 'get' somewhere but it has nowhere to go? Mine does, is this normal? Is this what people refer to as the 'digitalness' of digital effects.

I haven't personally noticed this yet. I'll listen next time I get a chance.

Cheers-

[rival]

Yes, I have noticed all of those things, particularly the digital sound.

I bought a GT-PRO and a GT-8 and have compared the two in a previous post (although I had to remove the audio samples due to bandwidth limitations). I decided to return the GT-PRO because it just didn't compare to the GT-8 in quality.

Go to Guitar Center and try a GT-8 and see if you don't hear the difference between it and what you bought. If you do, please post the results here.

[Myedvyed]

Second, I have a ev-5 pedel hooked up for use as wah. If I turn on any wah, play a single sustained note and slowly raise and lower the pedal, the wah sounds well... jumpy? It is not really smooth in the transition of 'wahness'. Like it sort of move es smooth and then quickly ups the 'wahness' then back to smooth etc. Not noticable when doing it quick. Is this just the way that the gt-pro does this? Hopefully it is just a bad pedal. BTW I did A/B the VO wah with my vox and man, it sure is damned close!
I'm guessing this has something to do with the MIDI implementation of the wah, which means there are only 128 possible values instead of a continuous range. Depending on how badly this effect is noticable, I might end up having to use my Crybaby.. which sucks, cause it would mean I need more external stuff and I wanted to have only 1 external controller and no loops outside of the rack.. but we'll see.

[cynegetic]

Well, looks like I got a bum unit. The main outs do not output equally no matter what I try and I can't get diddly squat from the sub outs at all.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[rcknrllmn]

Well, looks like I got a bum unit. The main outs do not output equally no matter what I try and I can't get diddly squat from the sub outs at all.

Damn, that stinks.

It could explain the


First off is I seem to bet a lot of electric interference when using this thing. Not necesarrily from the gt itself but just when using it. I am shure that it comes from the guitar originally an it dissapears when I turn down the guitars volume, but I don't get this interference when using other equipment. Anyone know the cure? Or is this that buzz that I have read about on the forums. IF it is that I sure hope that they are working on a fix.

How are you using your PRO, what is your signal chain & with what equipment are you using it with?

[aerial7]

I can't get diddly squat from the sub outs at all

Um, I had this as well -- if I recall correctly you have to configure the output section to do this. I think it was Output Select, the parameter right until you get to Output Channel, and then select whatever combo you need (I use MAIN+SUB).

[cynegetic]

Well, whadya know. that did it. I guess that I have yet a bit to learn, eh? I'm just used to stomp boxes and amps. The most advanced piece of gear that i have had was a zoom 9030. Childs play compared to this thing :D . The sub outs output evenly l\r but still having issues with the mains. I'll work on it and see if I can fix.

PS I learned the hard way that the xlr's output at a fixed level. My ears still hurt and the cat won't come out from under the bed. Oh well, hard to remember everything in the manual.

Thanks for the tip.

PPS As far as the wah goes. I understand that there are only 128 levels and that should be plenty. The wah nes only really jumps around a certain area. If it were because of the 128 events or what not that are sent, I would imagine that it would be kind of 'clicky' all the way through. I am gointg to try and get a differnt pedal, maybe since the ev-d is mechanical that the pot went bad in a spot from sitting around all these years in the same position.

[Myedvyed]

Glad to hear the wah doesn't sound clicky everywhere, would save me a lot of hassle :)

I hope it's just the pedal.. that's more easily replacable!

[aerial7]

So, you're saying the MAIN left doesn't output the same level as MAIN right?

[cynegetic]

Yes aerial7, that is correct. The left is more dominant. To the point that you can not tell that the right is even on unless the left is disconnected. The subs seem to output evenly. I have tried switching cables and speaker l/r's (jbl 6208) to no avail. Maybe that is the way that it is supposed to be? That the left (what would be mono) outputs louder than the right? But that does not make any logical sense to me. I haven't found anything about balance in the manual.

I thought that I had them outputting evenly once, but then it changed back on what was either a patch or volume change. Maybe my mind was plaing tricks on me.

Hmm, gotta keep putzin I guess.

[aerial7]

Well, I doubt this is it, but the expression pedal on my FC-200 has nearly claimed my sanity several times: Either myself or the kids will monkey with it, leaving it only partially down, and then I'll dial in a patch and wonder why the volume's down. When troubleshooting this, make sure your EV-5 is all the way down -- since, depending on the assigns for a given patch, it may be controlling volume.

Your attempt at switching cables was a good idea; I guess it's always possible maybe you're not plugging the one cable into the Main-R jack? (Yeah, sounds lame, but I've done dumber things than that!)

I'm not familiar with those speakers, but here's a few other ideas.... Have you tried swapping speakers (so Right becomes Left and vice versa)? Do they have any sorta balance or volume controls onboard? How are these connected -- you're going from the 1/4-inch Main Outs to where?

[cynegetic]

Again, thanks for the tips. I tried your exp. pedal idea, no joy.

As for not plugging it in all the way, I diddled with that too. That jack has had more in and out in one session that a Greek whore.

The speakers are active monitors and have no settings other than power. Have tried swapping those and am going direct 1/4 to 1/4.


If anyone is interested in what I meant by the sound from the wah, here is a sample.
http://home.comcast.net/~jpelzel/wahsample.wma
The effect is hard to pick out with chords or in tempo pedalling but at about 1:10 and again at 2:06 there are single note slow swells where you can really hear it. Maybe its just the nature of the beast, maybe the pedal is bad. Maybe I'm just prissy ;)

[cynegetic]

Here is a sample of the weird staticy tracking sound.

http://home.comcast.net/~jpelzel/staticsample.wma

For reference it isd the stock patch 1-4 with effects turned off.

[Myedvyed]

Hmmm.. both artifacts kinda sound like the same thing. So it might have nothing to do with the wah after all..

Cause after hearing the wah sample only, I still thought it had something to do with the 128 different levels. If you move the pedal quickly, you won't notice it. But if you move it slowly, as in the clip, the effect will become more pronounced.

But then I heard the second sample. It's possible that whatever you hear there, is the same issue as in the sample WITH wah. I've heard it before on some other multi-FX units, but I don't know what it is.

[nifo]

Hi,

It seems like the gtpro users are in minority. Guess that everyone uses the gt8 forum to get the all the information.

I've bought the pro a few moths ago and I must say that it's easy to use. I've been using the gp100 for many years and I think the pro is the best buy I did after the gp100.

My gear setup is as followed:

2 x 100 watt Koch multitone combos
fc200 midicontroller
gp100 & Gt-pro
Gibson LesPaul Custom 1978
Fender Performer Japan 1984
Abel Axe USA 1996
customized fenderstrat
Accoustic Ibanez Talman intertours

I will post some pro samples real soon.

greetz

Nifo

[petracci]

It seems like the gtpro users are in minority. Guess that everyone uses the gt8 forum to get the all the information.
It seems to be a big hit in The Netherlands, though :D


I will post some pro samples real soon.
Looking forward to hear those.....

Greetz,

Petracci

[Fubbe]

I will post some pro samples real soon.
Yeah, post 'em!
welcome to the pro users... :D