Midi Controller other than FC200

[Micktallica]

With what seems to be an awesome integration between the Pro and FC200

is there any reason to get another control, like the Ground Control Pro??

what about if you wanted to control something else at the same time??

[ElGringo]

I plan on using the Behringer FCB-1010 to control the GT-Pro. Like how you can assign the MIDI CC# to trigger/act as the CTL and Expression pedals.

[m00ncrickit]

USE A GT-8!!! :roll:

[micHmo]

USE A GT-8!!! :roll:

I'll first see if the pro can justify the extrrrra cost itself, if not, then I'll probably join the dark side :lol:

[rcknrllmn]

I guess it's Rolands proprietary way to get you to buy their foot controller. It does have exclusive functions that you cannot as easily perform with other controllers.

You are right that a unit like the ground control (which I have one of the older units) gives you more control over multuple units.

I was going to experiment & use the ground control to change patches & keep the FC-200 in manual mode. I have a little device called "pocket merge" which allows you to plug 2 midi inputs to one output.

I don't know if it will work yet, & never really tried it with my GX-700's.

[ASHJN]

Is there any benefit to using the FC-200 over a smaller foot controller if you are only going to be using it in Program Change mode?

[TripMasterB]

I'm using my Roland VG-88 to control the GT PRO. I've added a sub expression pedal to the VG. Was fairly easy to set up and works good.

[rcknrllmn]

Is there any benefit to using the FC-200 over a smaller foot controller if you are only going to be using it in Program Change mode?

Honestly I don't think so.

:)

[Evilution]

I use the FCB1010 that i recently bought although i dont have an GT-pro at least yet,i use a Boss VF-1 so far.
FCB1010 is a really great value, but if you want optimal reliability maybe there are better ones,not that ive had any problems so far.

I was actually thinking of a more expensive one at first,but the Rocktron all access was insanely expensive at about seven times the price of the FCB1010 and the Ground control seemed to have some serious reliabiity issues with the switches when reading the Harmony central reviews.

And at about three times the price of the FCB1010 i would expect it to have real metal switches instead of metal plungers actuating plastic switches.

The FC200 is about twice the price of the FCB1010 here i Sweden at least and it has only one expression pedal,of course it has better integration with the Boss/Roland stuff so thats probably the advantage.

The FCB1010 has an exellent unofficial PC editor that i use to program it,this is a great feathure, i dont know if the other ones have this feathure.

Heres a link to the FCB1010 editor http://www.mtnsys.com/faq-fcb/PCEditor.htm

[petracci]

:D Thank you x1000 !!

I've been using the FCB1010 with my GX 700 for the last 3 years now, worked perfectly. Just aquired the GT Pro and I was looking forward to all the repeated programming (not).

This will make life so easy.....

[piing]

I'm using my Roland VG-88 to control the GT PRO. I've added a sub expression pedal to the VG. Was fairly easy to set up and works good.

Hi Tripmaster

I'm using a VG-8 with the expression pedal assigned to a midi Controller.

I'm wondering: how do you mix the signal of the VG with the GT? Do you connect the output of the GT to the auxiliar input of the VG and then use the output of the VG? :?:

Read my post: http://www.bossgtcentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5500

[TripMasterB]

I'm using a VG-8 with the expression pedal assigned to a midi Controller. I'm wondering: how do you mix the signal of the VG with the GT? Do you connect the output of the GT to the auxiliar input of the VG and then use the output of the VG?

Hello Pingfloid,

Well, I'm still experimenting a bit with my current setup. Right now, this is how it is going:

My guitars are going into the VG-88 both gk13 and guitar in. The VG-88 has an unprocessed guitar out that I am sending the the GT - Pro. (main guitar in) In the GT- Pro's FX Loop, I am sending it through a BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer. Midi Cable is going out from the VG-88 to the GT-Pro. All main outs (L & R) from the VG-88 and GT-Pro are then going to a MosValve 962 Power Amp. (not really fond of the cable set up there). The MosValve then goes into a 4x12 Boogie Cabinet.

Let me just say, it's been a real pain in getting the levels to mix right. Between the midi and normal pickup processing of the VG-88 and blending pre-amps on the GT-Pro, there is a lot of stuff going on. I really like the "dirty" sounds much better on the GT vs. the VG. So, I've been sending no sound from the VG on those types of patches. Until I can get my levels right on the GT. (Still having some feedback problems there). The output of the GT seems so much louder then the VG. I can have the main output cranked on the VG while the GT would be at 9:00 just to hear the two. This is with my MosValve Gains at about Noon. I've had the VG-88 since they first came out, and I was really content with how I had the patch levels set up.

What I'm thinking of doing is getting a Rolls RM65 HexMix 6 x 4 Mixer Rackmount. This might be overkill, but I'm thinking that I might be able to control the mixing of the two a bit better that way.

After reading your post, running the VG to the GT 's Loop 1/2 sounds like an interesting idea. How would you set up the loop and where in the chain would you insert the VG (as part of the GT's Loop)?

Talk to me....

TripMaster

[piing]

The VG-88 has an unprocessed guitar out that I am sending the the GT - Pro

I am using a separate cable for the guitar signal, directly connected to the GT input. I believe that using the thin Hex-cable for the standard pickups will make a big signal loss, and the path is too long (Guitar>VG>GT).


hat I'm thinking of doing is getting a Rolls RM65

That's a good solution :idea:


running the VG to the GT 's Loop 1/2 sounds like an interesting idea. How would you set up the loop and where in the chain would you insert the VG (as part of the GT's Loop)?

I've been playing for about 10 years with this setup:

Guitar Out > Marshall JMP1 Input (direct cable)
JMP1 Send > Boss GX700 > JMP1 Return
GX700 Out > VG8 Aux Input
Hex Pickup > VG8 Input (hex cable)
VG8 Out > PA (DI)
VG8 Headphone Out > Stage Monitor (JBL EON15)

Now I'm also experimenting to find the best solution for the Gt-Pro. I also have to insert a Eventide H3000, but since it's only for reverb & pitch it can be at the end of the chain.

Guitar Out > GT Input (direct cable)
GT Loop 1 Send > JMP1 Input
JMP1 Output > GT Loop 1 Return
GT Out > Mixer
Hex Pickup > VG8 Input (hex cable)
VG8 Out > Mixer
Mixer Send > H3000 Input > Mixer Return
Mixer Out > Pa & Monitor

I don't want to use the Pre-Loop for the JMP-1, because this loop can not be inserted in the FX chain, so it would not be possible to place a compressor or Wah after the JMP1. That's not a clever solution from Boss. Why do they call it Pre-loop? :?: Why do they call it Pro? :cry:

That Pre-loop is completely useless, it's like connecting the guitar directly to the pre-amp, and the pre-amp out at the GT input.

As I said before, a real "Pro" GT-Pro should have the possibility to change the order of the Pre-Loop at the FX chain, and one stereo aux input. This way the Pre-amp would be inserted at the GT Pre-loop, The Eventide at the GT Stereo 1/2 loop, and the VG8 Output at the GT Auxiliar Input. GT Out to PA and GT Phones Out to Stage Monitor.

Are you reading this, Mr. Boss Engineer? Will you trade my GT-Pro when you release the GT-Pro II 8)

[Evilution]

I don't want to use the Pre-Loop for the JMP-1, because this loop can not be inserted in the FX chain, so it would not be possible to place a compressor or Wah after the JMP1. That's not a clever solution from Boss. Why do they call it Pre-loop? :?: Why do they call it Pro? :cry:

That Pre-loop is completely useless, it's like connecting the guitar directly to the pre-amp, and the pre-amp out at the GT input.


I was actually thinking of using my JCM800 head preamp in the pre loop since that would make it possible to use it for distorted and the gtpro for cleans since the JCM is as bad at doing that as it is amazing at doing distorted sounds.

Like this.

Guitar > gtpro input > send pre loop> JCM800 input > send JCM800 effect loop > return pre loop (GT) > gtpro output > JCM800 loop return.

That should probably work great.

The way im setup now is that i have a Boss VF1 in the effect loop of my JCM800 head and ill have to tell you the wah of that unit works really great in the effectloop of the JCM800 so i have no problem with that and i expect it to work great also with the gtpro.

I have a gtpro incoming to a store here in Stockholm so that i can try before i buy to see if it is what i expected,it seems like an amazing unit to me at least and having had an extremely good experience with my VF-1 i would be surpriced if it wouldnt live up to my expectations.

[piing]

I have a gtpro incoming to a store here in Stockholm
Be patient... :P

[Evilution]

I have a gtpro incoming to a store here in Stockholm
Be patient... :P

Yeah i guess i might have to be that,ive heard about the delays,im not sure how much it affects me though,it depends on Roland here in Sweden have them in stock or not,they may and in that case it shouldnt take very long ,on the other hand if they dont it may take quite a while.

[Myedvyed]

I've heard there were only 50 units or so for the Benelux area (Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg), and even the major stores didn't get more than 1 or 2 units. They underestimated the popularity of the GT-PRO, so we can only hope the next shipments will be larger.

[Evilution]

50 units is not much although i feel the market for this unit is much smaller than for the GT8.

I would however be very surpriced if any Swedish store had one in stock anyway.

[Myedvyed]

The market for it is indeed definitely smaller than for the GT8, and that one's easy to get a hold of. But I guess the market is larger than what Boss predicted, and now they have to make some more GT-PRO's for us :P

I won't find any of them in stock in my region either, so I just ordered one. If only I lived near the big cities, I'd already have gotten it! On some other forums, some people said one store had it in stock and they played it. I should have went to that store immediately.. ah well!

[Evilution]

I live in the surburbs about 20 kilometers from Stockholm the capitol of Sweden so getting to the city is not a problem its 20 minutes by train.

The market for musical instruments is however pretty small here in Sweden since were not that many people living here so getting an item that is a bit special almost allways is a question of ordering it to the store since its mostly the mainstream stuff thats in stock even in the capitol.